Perry "So sad. I love God more and more each day."
Don't be sad, connect with reality.
Perry "So sad. I love God more and more each day."
Don't be sad, connect with reality.
yesterday evening my wife and i were invited to friends house for new year's eve.
we met them when i was a christian and we have kept in touch.
they had a few other friends there as well, including the new church pastor and his wife.
KateWild I cannot see a God that cares, hence I cannot believe that the creator actually punishes or rewards people, he just simply creates and is indifferent to our suffering.
You recently said that you were not an Atheist or a Theist. Your comment implies that you are moving towards being a Deist.
I so hope this doesn't confuse you further.
yesterday evening my wife and i were invited to friends house for new year's eve.
we met them when i was a christian and we have kept in touch.
they had a few other friends there as well, including the new church pastor and his wife.
caliber Faith, hope and love are not nothing. They are emotions and longings that are a part of being human.
The existence of such emotions and longings do not automatically prove the existence of a spirit realm. Nor do they disprove the existence of a spirit realm or a spiritual ham sandwich.
yesterday evening my wife and i were invited to friends house for new year's eve.
we met them when i was a christian and we have kept in touch.
they had a few other friends there as well, including the new church pastor and his wife.
"A ham sandwich is better than nothing...
Nothing is better than eternal happiness...
Therefore...
A ham sandwich is better than eternal happiness."
This is the sort of false dichotomy that leads to convoluted thinking. It is dishonest and misleading.
Ham sandwiches exist. Eternal happiness is an unfulfilled promise; in other words nothing.
If I were you I would take the ham sandwich and waive the rest.
i don't.. i consider myself a truth teller.. the watchtower society appears to be more "apostate" than even "christendom"..
As it happens, I left the Watchtower Society because I didn’t want to be part of false religion.
Hold on, wasn’t the Watchtower Society founded for the same reason? That's why its founders apostatised.
A captive thinker is god's slave.
why, yes i am according to the jws.
this is an topic that has always irked me with the jws.
anyone who had a good paying job and nice things was materialistic.
I used to be spiritually minded but am now materialistic. It’s a better way to live in my opinion. We are material people living in a material world. We stay alive by eating organic material. Our entire reality is material. All the while we dwell on this planet we will seek comfort in material things. It is our nature to be materialistic. Who is to say what constitutes being ‘excessively’ concerned with material possessions?
The reason various religious leaders caution against being materialistic, is that it is a distraction from supporting their particular persuasion. They earn their living by directing people towards heaven, earthly activity is discouraged. They have cleverly retagged materialism as ‘greed’ and called it a deadly sin. Oh please!
yesterday evening my wife and i were invited to friends house for new year's eve.
we met them when i was a christian and we have kept in touch.
they had a few other friends there as well, including the new church pastor and his wife.
FHN "I understand having questions about god. Glad. Its just not been your style to address posters in a disrespectful way."
OK, FHN - you won’t let this thing go, so, please quote the part of my post that was disrespectful or one sentence that was not factual, and I will reply to you. Otherwise drop it, because you are a distraction that is adding nothing to this debate.
yesterday evening my wife and i were invited to friends house for new year's eve.
we met them when i was a christian and we have kept in touch.
they had a few other friends there as well, including the new church pastor and his wife.
FlyingHighNow Humour is an effective way to make a valid point about a serious subject, in an entertaining way. Questioning the way I choose to make my point is a distraction from the questions that still remain.
Why does the god of the bible still use’ methods of communication from the dark ages? Why did he not communicate at all and allow 250,000 people to die in the tsunami under discussion?
You have just asked me a question and I have answered. It’s not that hard is it. Why can’t god do that?
yesterday evening my wife and i were invited to friends house for new year's eve.
we met them when i was a christian and we have kept in touch.
they had a few other friends there as well, including the new church pastor and his wife.
Let’s be honest, the god of the bible has so far used archaic methods of communication; stone tablets, prophets, angels, bellowing from the sky, and Chinese whispers. We even get messages from him via Tammy on JW.net
If emails were as hit and miss as communication with this god we would all go back to sending letters. Fortunately emails can be sent in the blink of an eye. They arrive uncorrupted and pristine with no misunderstanding or ambiguity. They can be sent to individuals or 250,000 people at the same time, if required. A reply can be made with the same accuracy. Not bad for a system invented by imperfect humans. Then we have the fantastic telephone; landline or mobile, take your pick.
Why doesn’t this god just admit that he has made a complete hash of communicating with humans? He should get up to speed and use some of the modern communication methods that humans do. For Christ’s sake, club together and buy this god an Apple tablet.